7 comments

  • amluto 39 minutes ago

    Wow, what a bug. I expect the exploit is literally as simple as trying to ssh in as a user with the password has ‘*’ in /etc/shadow and typing anything as the password.

    To the extent that systems that are configured in the vulnerable manner exist in the wild, I’m surprised they weren’t exploited years ago by trivial ssh bots.

    P.S. Wow, I’m reminded of just how awful traditional UNIX-y C APIs and code are.

    P.P.S. The musl code in question is nuts. The API it implements is awful. Seriously, here’s the manpage:

    https://man.archlinux.org/man/crypt.3.en

    You can’t call this function correctly. sshd’s “fix” is basically to assume that a too-short return is an error return instead of a success return.

    PAM is also awful, but this is worse.

    • throwa356262 2 hours ago

      musl only, the quick fix:

           PasswordAuthentication=no
      
      
      Which is a good advice in general.
      • patadura 3 minutes ago

        imo this is a good advice only if the devices that connect to the server have their home encrypted and ssh private key protected.

        • solyin 39 minutes ago

          How do you break back into your digital life? You wake up in a strange place. Something happened. Everything's gone. No wallet/keys/smartphone/tablet/laptop. How would you get back into your digital life given only a laptop with access to the Internet, unless something, somewhere is passwordauthenticate=yes.

          • jareklupinski 10 minutes ago

            > You wake up in a strange place. Something happened. Everything's gone. No wallet/keys/smartphone/tablet/laptop.

            at this point the _last_ thing i care about is my email.

            where am i? am i ok? how are my friends/loved ones?

            once those are in place, it becomes clearer how to get back to "normal"

            • viraptor 13 minutes ago

              Remotely: An encrypted file with a seed / master passwords to all the other data, published under a public url you can remember, but not linked anywhere and not listed.

              Locally: Same, but printed out, laminated, in a safe place with other documents.

              • denkmoon 13 minutes ago

                I walk to my pc and type ssh-keygen. If i can’t do that I’ve got bigger problems. “I must be able to recover remotely using a memorised credential” is a terrible requirement.

                • INTPenis 29 minutes ago

                  Yeah your vault has password authentication. Your password manager in other words. Your vault is where you store your private ssh keys, and or the passwords for the keys.

              • asdfsa32 39 minutes ago

                Who does PasswordAuthentication=yes in this day and age anyway.

                • ectospheno 18 minutes ago

                  People who use AuthenticationMethods "publickey,password"

                  You must present a key first after which you must enter a password.

                  • rvz 2 minutes ago

                    Just do no password at all.

                • entuno 44 minutes ago

                  Seems slightly confusing that the OpenSSH release notes page says:

                  > This release contains a critical security workaround that affects Linux systems that use the musl libc and PAM disabled.

                  But that there's nothing about it on their security page.

                  Even if it's not technically a bug in their code, the fact that they've made a "critical" release to address it suggests that it should probably be listed on the security page as well. But maybe (hopefully) they just haven't updated the security page yet.

                  • crest 1 hour ago

                    I'm sure some people running lightweight containers just had a heart attack.

                    • smw 51 minutes ago

                      I would imagine the vast majority of lightweight containers don't contain an ssh server?

                    • phoronixrly 1 hour ago

                      I presume Dropbear, thus musl-based OpenWrt routers are also not affected? Not that Dropbear has been an example in that regard.

                      • manwe150 1 hour ago

                        Since after you posted, various people in the thread have reported dropbear is not affected

                      • jordiburgos 1 hour ago

                        Workaround? Why not a fix?

                        • ale42 1 hour ago

                          AFAIU because the bug is in musl and not in OpenSSH