5 comments

  • Panzerschrek 17 minutes ago

    Trenchbroom is very good, but I still think, it's not the best possible map editor. It uses brush-based approach, which isn't the right way of designing maps for games in closed spaces (like Quake). Creating each room requires creating at least 6 brushes for its walls/floor/ceiling, which is way to much for such stuff. On the other hand Unreal Editor (for first Unreal and Unreal Tournament) supports creating rooms directly (as subtractive brushes), when two room primitive touch each other, they are automatically connected.

    • paczki 2 hours ago

      Cool article, never knew the actual history of how Trenchbroom got started! Have been using it very casually over the last decade or so. There are some incredible Quake mappers out there making things that would make your jaw drop if you haven't seen Quake in quite a while.

      For example, Arcane Dimensions[0] or the Quake Brutalist Jam[1]

      [0] https://www.moddb.com/mods/arcane-dimensions

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquTPCYbOxk

      • Freak_NL 35 minutes ago

        Anyone looking to get into single player Quake should grab an engine like IronWail and just go through all three Brutalist Jams. These are essentially map packs with contributions from various mappers, linked by a museum like base map (as many jams do). Each successive Brutalist Jam pushes the boundaries of what a thirty year old base game can still do.

      • drbscl 3 hours ago

        Trenchbroom is legitimately among the best software I have ever used. I grew up using Hammer and this simply blows it out of the water.

        One nice thing is that you can use it as a level editor for your own games in Godot with func_godot

        • phoboslab 1 hour ago

          Agreed! I used it to build the maps for my 13kb Quake demake[1]. Compared to q3radiant that I used back in the day, Trenchbroom is just so much more pleasant to work with. In hindsight it seems totally obvious that _this_ is the way a map editor should work.

          [1] https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of

          • paczki 2 hours ago

            func_godot works better than I expected it to the first time I used it, properly imports and compiles triggers, lights, materials, sounds, etc straight from trenchbroom so you really can do 90% of your work in trenchbroom. It's awesome for prototyping!

          • r0ze-at-hn 4 hours ago

            It is neat all of these years later to see Qt pop up now and then, just chugging along with comments from users like the author saying "Yep, that was worth it.". Just doing its thing getting out of the way and letting users build what they want to do.

            • keyle 4 hours ago

              Trenchbroom is excellent and fun. Many game devs use it to block out levels or make entire games.