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  • smilekzs 7 minutes ago

    On a related note: Would love to see cyclomatic complexity as a supporting metric for readability. I increasingly find AI-adjacent and AI-written code suffering from this.

    • Vakaiser 1 hour ago

      Does anyone have ways to reduce the complexity and verbosity of code generated via agents?

      Anything that can increase code quality would help.

      • fastball 5 hours ago

        On the one hand, I absolutely agree that we should try to measure and reduce verbosity that LLMs are slopping into our codebases.

        On the other hand, the fact that Astra is "winning" this bench is not great signal for me, since imo Astra produces basically unreadable code. Astra plays code golf. My own revealed preference is that I'd rather have the excessive comments and tests of Claude rather than the inscrutability of Astra.

        • demibabs 2 hours ago

          Yeah the issue is that while code that’s too verbose is bad, code that’s too terse is as well.

          Astra codes like it has to pay by the keystroke (although in a way, it indeed does)

          • ndr 3 hours ago

            I keep going in between the two and I'm currently in an Astra season, deeply disliking the tone and modes of Claude.

            I wonder if the two will diverge enough that this becomes the tab-vs-spaces/vim-vs-emacs of the LLM era and they'll manage to keep users moving over at some point.

          • Xeoncross 1 hour ago

            At this point, I really want all AI benchmarks to use the best coding/writing model that normal people can run locally.

            For now that seems to be Qwen 3.8 27B that requires ~28GB of RAM (Q4) which is pretty doable for anyone with a beefy GPU or slightly-above-average mac.

            I want to know how close open weights (open models) are to all these leading commercial models. Yes, yes, local models aren't as good, but that distance is closing as local models are already better than what we had just over a year ago in many cases.

            Same with Text-to-Image generation (Flux 2, Z-Image-Turbo, etc..) or text-to-speech (Parakeet, Whisper, etc..).