Chapter 1 of "Ways of Seeing" by John Berger (1972)

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76 points | by rafael859 7 hours ago

5 comments

  • tclancy 5 hours ago

    I found the youtube copy of the series to be great - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4LwAuTw7k

    • eecc 5 hours ago

      yep, and Sony Music Entertainment auto-ensured shareholder value was maximized

    • smokel 5 hours ago

      Interestingly, this is not copyright infringement, or at least not for the text being reproduced here. The original book (1972) mentions "The text of this book is not copyright" [1]. The image reproductions could invite copyright trolls though, so be warned.

      [1] https://pengpedia.org/edition/ways-of-seeing-john-berger-471...

      • jemdiggity 5 hours ago

        I found Berger's writing pretty hard to digest. But thanks for the inspiration — will try again.

        • yzydserd 4 hours ago

          I came to Berger through Sontag’s On Photography. An easier companion.

        • trimethylpurine 5 hours ago

          Berger had no credentials or education in anthropology or any science whatsoever but invented a whole movement that I think doesn't carry any scientific weight. His reputation is truly undeserved.

          I think the fact that his work has been largely adopted by media experts, and is taught as dogma in film/media studies course work at the college level should be a strong signal that our ideas as a society about sex and body image are severely distorted and deeply problematic. Not in light of his work but because of it.

          • wonnage 1 hour ago

            I’m confused, so now that he is considered influential in the fields he lacked credentials for how is that in any way a negative

            Unless you think those fields were scientifically rigorous until they decided to adopt his ideas?

            Maybe you just disagree with the existence of “male gaze”

            • tclancy 2 hours ago

              Can you expand on that and point me at resources in this topic? Interesting.

            • pmoriarty 5 hours ago

              > It is seeing which establishes our place in the surrounding world

              Do blind people not have a place in the surrounding world?

              • yzydserd 4 hours ago

                Berger’s way of ‘seeing’ is to situate yourself in the time and place, less ocular than you may assume. And then he wrote the touching Cataracts, about how he lost his vision and gained a new way to see. He regained his vision and soon died. Possibly this is why you’ve been downvoted.

                • trimethylpurine 4 hours ago

                  If that's true then the down votes themselves are beautifully and ironically tone def in regards to Berger's advocacy of awareness of context and medium in which the viewer is interpreting the content.