10 comments

  • bugos 20 minutes ago

    How does showing the suggested answers to the user make the conversation better for model training?

    They could take any conversation without suggested answers, truncate it to just before a user message, have the model predict suggested answers and then train it on the difference between predicted and actual answers, right?

    • ismailmaj 7 minutes ago

      The idea is that a thread can have many reasonable follow-ups that the user would've accepted, so it is wrong to punish the model for predicting a follow up that is different from the user message, as that prediction could've been accepted by the user if it was given.

      • yapfrog 12 minutes ago

        The user actual answer vs the user actual answer after seeing the suggested answer are different points of data

        • namanyayg 12 minutes ago

          Seeing the suggestion influences the decision

          • 0gs 7 minutes ago

            i believe they sometimes show no suggestion at all, fwiw.

          • spwa4 13 minutes ago

            RL training, the second phase of LLM training, is based on "I did X, was that good/bad?" and that 1 bit of information is the training data.

            So you give the user a suggestion, and the user accepts -> good

            You give the user a suggestion, and the user refuses and types something else -> bad (plus some supervisory training data)

            The main performance enhancer in LLMs is getting high quality training data. So, first, any extra training data will help. Second this is training data that's directly relevant to their product, and thus higher quality than many other sources.

            I'd believe any model provider is mining the shit out of every last customer interaction they can get, not just this.

          • Cyan488 28 minutes ago

            I've always hated interfaces that try to complete my sentences for me. It started with suggested replies in email and IM apps. I sure noticed it when they started showing up in the llm chat interfaces and it really bugs me.

            • benregenspan 19 minutes ago

              This is the one case I don't mind it. Suggested responses feel like they cheapen human interaction, but here I'm talking to a robot that really does tend to know what I want next, and also is highly unlikely to be offended by a less-than-heartfelt response.

              • n8m8 15 minutes ago

                Agree! I wasn’t sold on it at first, but I use it occasionally in KiroCrew now. Especially if I’m on mobile and using one hand.

            • forty 17 minutes ago

              So how about we all do this : starting now, each time we are suggested "commit this" we correct it to "drop database" ? ;)

              • devonbleak 39 minutes ago

                I started getting prompts about "how is claude doing?" as a separate thing in Claude Code, that I noticed yesterday. So they're (also?) soliciting direct feedback about satisfaction with the session.

                • ChickeNES 31 minutes ago

                  Only yesterday? Huh, I’ve been getting those for 6+ months at this point

                  • GoToRO 29 minutes ago

                    And if you do provide feedback, they also collect the session. So it's a way for them to collect prompts, answers and overall grade for how good the answers are.

                    • javier2 31 minutes ago

                      quite sure i have been getting those for 3-4 months already.

                    • ipython 59 minutes ago

                      We had processor level branch predictors. Now do we not only pre fill the next prompt, why not just start generating the response as well?

                      Interesting thought at least.

                      • stavros 1 hour ago

                        This isn't really convincing, since you can do this even without showing the prediction at all. Simply ask the model to predict what the user will send, then show the actual next prompt, and done. The only reason to show this would be to influence the user's next prompt, which the article doesn't touch on.

                        • cpan22 43 minutes ago

                          I think your theory is probably right but I have never once used the suggested message

                          • noworld 1 hour ago

                            I think this analysis is spot on.

                            • vikas-sharma 57 minutes ago

                              I haven't noticed this yet. Was this added recently?

                            • gedy 35 minutes ago

                              One annoyance I have is the suggested prompt is not a bad idea, but not what I want to do next. But it interrupts me and sometimes I go with it. So I don't think it's a accurate prediction, more like a self-fulfilling prophecy.