3 comments

  • mamonster 32 minutes ago

    >Other costs (total: 2.6k€): Notary: Changing company address and CEO: 1.5k€ Notary: Changing company suffix from UG to GmbH: 1.1k€

    This is absolutely crazy. For comparison, below are the costs in Switzerland (and you can do all the things yourself by writing a letter signed by the authorized persons, so add whatever your time costs):

    https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/2020/180/de

    • leonidasrup 9 minutes ago

      It's very good you mention Switzerland, as the contemporary German exit tax legislation traces back to the scandal with Helmut Horten, a department-store magnate who moved to Switzerland in 1968, sold his business stake and paid virtually no tax. The event prompted enactment of the Foreign Tax Act (Außensteuergesetz) in 1972, whose exit-tax provision (§ 6 AStG) is nicknamed lex Horten.

      • leonidasrup 10 minutes ago

        The important sentence in the article is:

        " I own a few companies which means I'd be hit by the German exit tax. "

        We don't know how many companies does he own.

        We can look into exit tax rate, in different countries:

        Germany: effective tax rate of up to roughly 28.5%

        Japan: CGT rate is 20.315%

        Israel: Standard CGT rate is 25%

        Austria: Standard CGT rate is 27.5%

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_tax

      • cc62cf4a4f20 46 minutes ago

        These types of taxes are common and logic is simple, you have capital gains that accrued during the time you were tax resident in Germany. By rights the taxes on those gains are due to the German state. So you need to do a deemed disposition and pay the relevant taxes.

        I had to do the same when moving country and it’s right.

        • pu_pe 58 minutes ago

          > The German exit tax is very.. expensive. In simplified terms, I'd have to simulate a sale of all my companies at a high valuation (13.75 * earnings), and pay 30% tax on that.

          This is an outrageous valuation and taxation scheme.

          I think German politicians either don't understand the magnitude of the issue, or they have been coopted by lobbying somehow. It's such a tough environment for innovation.