CobaltC – The Successor to C?

(strawberry9.github.io)

13 points | by SilentLambda 3 hours ago

8 comments

  • ethin 1 hour ago

    This is so obviously written by ChatGPT from what I can tell. Not even an attempt to copyedit it unless I missed something.

    • thinkafter 1 hour ago

      I’m not sure about copy but the UI seems designed to look like an AI response which is certainly a choice

      • hyperhello 1 hour ago

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      • pizlonator 1 hour ago

        This doesnt seems to be meaningfully different from Rust.

        > does not require tracing garbage collection

        Just call it garbage collection.

        (Applies in two ways: if you think that garbage collection subsumes reference counting then this language doesn’t require garbage collection in the sense that it also doesn’t require reference counting; if you think that garbage collection does not subsume reference counting then there’s no point in saying three words when you can say two.)

        • ronsor 2 hours ago

          Before I read this, what is there about C3 [0] you don't like?

          [0] https://c3-lang.org

          • jjtheblunt 1 hour ago

            C3 is an embarrassing mess regarding integer types and sizes, missing C99's stdint.h defs, for example.

            • strenholme 1 hour ago

              To clarify: C3 has fixed sized ints. Maybe the parent poster doesn’t like their names, but they are fixed sized, as follows:

                Name    Size    Signed
                bool    1       no
                ichar   8       yes
                char    8       no
                short   16      yes
                ushort  16      no
                int     32      yes
                uint    32      no
                long    64      yes
                ulong   64      no
                int128  128     yes
                uint128 128     no
              
              Source: https://c3-lang.org/language-overview/types/#integer-types
          • It's great to have it all spec'd out. However, I think specs like this suffer the same fate as war plans: they get modified quickly as soon as implementation begins. Nonetheless, it's good to have a clear idea of where you're headed. I just wouldn't call it "Final."

            • rurban 46 minutes ago

              Unsafe identifiers, prone to homoglyph attacks. No TR39 provisions. Worse than rust or Java. https://strawberry9.github.io/the-wrong-memory/Appendix_06.h...

              • drgo 2 hours ago

                reads more like a Wishlist rather than actual implementable specs.

                • nextaccountic 2 hours ago

                  every spec is implementable

                  some just delegate more or less to the implementation

                  • nextaccountic 2 hours ago

                    that said, the borrowing part is incredibly short on details

                    i read trying to assess if it's more or less expressible than rust's current nll or the future polonius and honestly there's nothing there

                • yoklov 2 hours ago

                  This is certainly copying off Rust's homework...

                  • Fordec 2 hours ago

                    Who copied off Haskells homework, so here we are.

                    • irishcoffee 1 hour ago

                      And cloudflare still somehow shipped a rust binary that crashed half the internet.

                      • katdork 49 minutes ago

                        and I've had Haskell binaries attempt to use infinite quantities of RAM (looking at an old version of dconf2nix here) and thus crash

                  • woodruffw 55 minutes ago

                    Another one?

                    • SilentLambda 15 minutes ago

                      Yes, but remember is the last appendix to a book, and book provides the context for this appendix. So yes, in that sense, it's just another one attempting to address the memory-safety issues of C. At least this one uses C like syntax and doesn't require C programmers to learn some alien syntax. Of course, this is just a spec, Rust is well and truly live in the environment. The book is more interesting than the spec.

                      • Gualdrapo 15 minutes ago

                        Odin's turn to be "the sucessor of C" is due this month