Nikita Bier Steps Down as Head of Product at X

(twitter.com)

36 points | by DearAll 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • saagarjha 1 hour ago

    I guess he decided he had ruined the platform enough. Before he joined X had already implemented the login wall stuff that only let you view a single post, by the time he left it would show a tapping animation trying to beg you to install the app, open the App Store immediately if you interacted with anything, and put up a bunch of popovers. I hope that his changes increased engagement in the way he had hoped.

    • tyre 11 minutes ago

      Nikita was always a bad hire.

      If you look at his history, he’s really good at growth hacking apps to pump-and-dump into acquisitions. He hasn’t proven himself in building lasting products.

      His last app, Gas, saw meteoric growth from some truly impressive growth hacking on children, but then got acquired by Discord and very soon after tanked. Same with whatever he’d sold to Facebook.

      His (and others’ defense) to criticism has always been, “I made a lot of money on an exit,” which, sure, whatever. Personally, I don’t find that very interesting or compelling.

      He fit Musk’s profile (brash, extremely online Take Haver), but not the kind of person you want leading product.

    • jjcm 20 minutes ago

      There's a lot of negative about twitter here, especially related to timeline being shit.

      I'd like to give a different perspective - it's an algorithmic feed like anything else, it surfaces what you engage with. There are good niches on it. My feed is a mix of designers and AI engineers - not leaders, but people on the ground making things.

      There's definitely been weird things politically with it, but content wise it really isn't as bad as people demonize it to be.

      • kypro 5 minutes ago

        I want to echo this point. My X feed is not full of politics either. It tends to just be a mix of stuff I engage with, and I tend to engage with stuff I find interesting or funny.

        Lots of economic and tech stuff, and some memes.

        I often hear people say the same thing about the YouTube algorithm which also confuses me because the YouTube algorithm is amazing at surfacing a wide range of content I'd never had watched back in the subscription days.

        I suspect most people who have a bad experience with these algorithms could have a much better experience if they didn't engage in low effort rage bait content.

      • afavour 1 hour ago

        https://xcancel.com/nikitabier/status/2085105586966827343#m

        The most consequential change in recent years has been to pay users for posting controversial content. For me that killed the service. Anything else is secondary.

        • InterviewFrog 33 minutes ago

          it has always been this way across every platform.

          most people don't pay attention to anything that isn't controversial or extreme. Thats just how our brains work and thats the reason why MrBeast's advice on making it on youtube is the way it is.

          • mplewis 24 minutes ago

            the fact that this recently changed on twitter means it has not, in fact, "always been this way across every platform"

        • orsorna 1 hour ago

          Man this guy was obnoxious. Even his farewell post is dripping in annoying quips.

          • Aboutplants 10 minutes ago

            The first SpaceX stock lockup expiration is tomorrow, timing seems nice assuming he had some in his pay package.

            • Zealotux 1 hour ago

              What an absolute miserable experience Twitter is now, even more than before, I can feel my cortisol spiking every time I open that website.

              • ZiiS 1 hour ago

                Maybe stop?

                • axod 41 minutes ago

                  Isn’t the whole point that they don’t want you to use the website - they want you to install the app. Why would they make the website an enjoyable experience?

                  • outside1234 16 minutes ago

                    Stop using it! It is like an oxy addiction and we all just need to stop - it isn't good for us.

                    • 762236 1 hour ago

                      It's wild to me how many replies are like this. I like X. HN, on the other hand is miserable, with censorship through down votes of unorthodox thinkers (PG would be completely down voted if he were to post here anonymously).

                      • everfrustrated 29 minutes ago

                        I find I get a lot more hacker news from X now than HN.

                        AI, database tech, etc I find I read about it on X much earlier and the comments are a lot less negative.

                        X is what you make it. It will feed you with more of what you read and interact with.

                        • dgellow 56 minutes ago

                          Ironically for you, the HN guidelines recommend to not complain about the voting system:

                          > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

                          https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

                          • drstewart 8 minutes ago

                            Now read the rest of those guidelines and then other comments in this thread.

                          • DoesntMatter22 54 minutes ago

                            Agree totally. X is pretty open. I like reading the stories her more but it's an extreme group think of only one position

                        • mosura 1 hour ago

                          Maybe it is me, but for a random Wednesday in August there have been a strange amount of big moves today. Normally you expect quiet or nonsense.

                          • neko_ranger 1 hour ago

                            maybe the tech trade deadline is this week (baseball's was on monday)

                          • unsupp0rted 1 hour ago

                            > We've climbed 70 spots in the App Store since this time last year.

                            Shows how valuable the Play Store is to them

                            • interleave 56 minutes ago

                              imho Nikita did a good job and I wish he stayed on.

                              Twitter is 100% better now than a year ago. For one, I haven't gotten a single bullshit click-farm fake-ass sock-puppet follower in months. Secondly, I see very few low-effort reply guys lately, human or otherwise.

                              • atonse 12 minutes ago

                                That's been my experience too. I left twitter a few years ago, but when I created a new account (only following AI and startups and people MAKING things, and movie and show clip accounts), it's been so awesome to keep track of all the stuff going on.

                                • andrewingram 53 minutes ago

                                  Are you paying? I see an endless stream of AI or bot-like posts in the replies of basically every tweet I see with any traction, but i'm not a paying user so I may have the bad version of the platform.

                                  • stelonix 30 minutes ago

                                    Same. I just skip verified posts because the ones at the top are LLM replies. Unless I'm missing something, that should be easy to detect. Instead I've got ghost banned for a week+ now, no reason given and no way to appeal. X now is the place if you want to check for yourself the dead internet theory.

                                    • everfrustrated 26 minutes ago

                                      There's has been a noticeable improvement in bots for me since the new Android app rolled out a few weeks back.

                                      Not exactly sure how that changed anything but I see a lot less bot slop now.

                                    • unsupp0rted 17 minutes ago

                                      I'm a supporter of X but even I admit I see non-stop AI bot comments

                                      • kypro 12 minutes ago

                                        HN is downvoting you for expressing an opinion they don't like / don't agree with. There are other comments here with upvotes that are expressing much lower effort opinions, but they're expressing the right opinion.

                                        I need to quit this place. It's a total echo chamber these days – arguably worse than X because at least when you express an unpopular opinion there people can't just flag and burry your post.

                                        • drstewart 5 minutes ago

                                          The reddit crowd has found HN

                                      • rvz 45 minutes ago

                                        In 2022, Twitter / X was supposed to have completely shut down according to many doomsters at the time. It is clear that many in [0], [1] and [2] also would like to ask the same question why Twitter / X still hasn't shut down.

                                        Turns out almost 4 years later, we are going to waiting even longer for the collapse.

                                        [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33984823

                                        [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34214903

                                        [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34617964

                                        • kristianc 35 minutes ago

                                          He had the good fortune to cut just as AI was beginning to mean you needed fewer software engineers for the same level of output. And yes, software companies across the industry had accumulated in many instances people whose business was not, and was sometimes orthogonal to, building software.

                                          • unsupp0rted 15 minutes ago

                                            How is this guy who keeps starting or taking over and fixing wildly successful companies always this lucky?

                                            • everfrustrated 24 minutes ago

                                              Elon was well on top of what AI was capable of. That sounds less luck and more well played.

                                            • outside1234 15 minutes ago

                                              It has collapsed. It is just bots and racism that have collapsed it, not a technical failure.

                                              It has also collapsed on a business front. There are rumors that it has 1/10th the revenue that it did before.

                                            • bigyabai 1 hour ago

                                              > X is, and will remain, the most important communication technology in history.

                                              A little cocky.

                                              • gota 1 hour ago

                                                Twitter is indeed the greatest communication techonlogy if you do not count the telegraph, the telephone, the television, radio, almost every single aspect of the internet, etc.

                                                It beats shouting from your window in reach and carrier pigeons in needing less birdfeed, though.

                                                • unsupp0rted 1 hour ago

                                                  > the telegraph, the telephone, the television

                                                  None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions. Seriously: x disintermediates and offers distribution in a way no other communication tech does.

                                                  Granted you can always post a blog or whatever, but X's ambition to be the "town square" is a valid one and it does achieve it in notable ways, even if there's still 100 years worth of improvement needed.

                                                  • dgellow 50 minutes ago

                                                    The town square concept has never made sense. The idea that you have a place where everybody goes and scream at each others insults non stop is completely insane in the real world

                                                    • unsupp0rted 21 minutes ago

                                                      Yes that would be insane, but that's not an accurate depiction of my x feed at all

                                                    • mindslight 54 minutes ago

                                                      > None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions

                                                      Onlyfans was included under "almost every single aspect of the internet".

                                                      • bigyabai 1 hour ago

                                                        > None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions.

                                                        I take it you didn't watch much daytime television? Or YouTube?

                                                        X is not designed or moderated in a reputable, accountable or unbiased fashion - and neither was Twitter. X's ambition to be a "town square" is a solipsistic delusion that even Dorsey managed to avoid (despite all the mistakes he did make).

                                                        100 years worth of improvement isn't enough, X's centralized design is inherently abusive and many communities have already moved on. As Terry Davis would have put it, X glows.

                                                        • unsupp0rted 24 minutes ago

                                                          Daytime television was intermediated by tv producers.

                                                          Youtube's algorithm prevents big channels (or even little channels) from saying scary words like "suicide" so they play games like saying "somebody un-alived" themselves.

                                                          I'm surprised HN hates X so much as a cess-pool of wrong-think: that's what you get when you let people say anything to anybody. The great challenge that X has taken on is trying to surface the useful stuff for people. Maybe they're not that good at it, but they're improving.... which is well in line with the hacker ethos.

                                                          Personally, my x feed is a pretty good mix of things I want to see and things I didn't know I want to see. Maybe 10~20% of it isn't relevant at all.

                                                          • ghaff 8 minutes ago

                                                            It's not even about wrong-think. So many people I know just drifted away--or cut contact and nothing equivalent replaced it. It was a fairly important type of social media to me and many of the the people I knew/know but it really isn't anymore.

                                                        • blokey 1 hour ago

                                                          I guess.

                                                          If the town itself is an aids-ridden, nazi infested bunch of child-porn-creating yobs.

                                                          They can keep that town and its square. I'd nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.