15 comments

  • Jordan-117 3 minutes ago

    I first encountered it set to Radiohead's "Sail to the Moon," which pairs quite well with the eerie visuals:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-ggx0TlkA

    • JoeDaDude 49 minutes ago

      For those interested in the subject, animation has quite a history before Disney came onto the scene. I suggest this book:

      Before Mickey: The Animated Film 1898-1928 by Donald Crafton

      Personally, I remain impressed to this day with the pioneering work of Winsor McCay, the cartoonist who created Little Nemo. Perhaps the best example:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW71mSedJuU

      • bentley 7 hours ago

        100 years old, yet its copyright only expired five years ago—in the United States. In Europe and other life+70 regions, the film will remain copyrighted past 2050, even though Lotte Reiniger died nearly half a century ago!

        • johncoltrane 3 hours ago

          What's the problem, here?

          • rob74 32 minutes ago

            Part of the problem is that it wasn't possible to upload it to YouTube until recently (and someone from Germany could still demand for it to be taken down or made unavailable in Germany), while also, being almost 100 years old, it was not released commercially - which both conspired to condemn it to obscurity.

            • AnimalMuppet 2 hours ago

              The problem is that copyright is supposed to secure for the authors the benefits of a creative work for a limited time. If it's decades longer than the longest human lifespan, that's not "a limited time" in any sense that is meaningful to humans.

              • madaxe_again 1 hour ago

                Says the guy using a registered trademark as his username.

            • JKCalhoun 11 hours ago

              Amazing film. (I discovered it via "1001 Movies to See Before You Die.")

              Copies are on YT:

              https://youtu.be/7V_8aFQUfBw

              https://youtu.be/AbXjEoD_dIE

              https://youtu.be/j6DaB0Is4jM

              • bentley 7 hours ago

                It can also be watched in full on Wikipedia, as is the case with many films that are public domain in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Prince_Achme...

                • MrBuddyCasino 3 hours ago

                  Remarkable visuals. Could be an indie computer game.

                  • dofm 3 hours ago

                    I am not a gamer but there is an indie game I wanted to try — is it called First Light? — that is essentially a shadow puppet realm.

                    There's a game I did try that used silhouette visuals that are IMO very Reininger-inspired — Limbo.

                • pumanoir 1 hour ago

                  There's app that allows you to do something quite similar in real time:

                  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/quikanimate/id6467067883

                  • 1659447091 3 days ago

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-TJvNBO1fw

                    17 min documentary showing Reiniger's technique/process

                    • jimbokun 13 hours ago

                      I’m shocked I never heard of this before.

                      Just watched the first couple minutes of The Adventures of Prince Achmed and it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before.

                      • thaumasiotes 9 hours ago

                        > it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before

                        It's a filmed shadowpuppet performance.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_play

                        • veltas 5 hours ago

                          This is not true, it's a stop-motion animation.

                          • thaumasiotes 4 hours ago

                            Of what?

                            • dofm 3 hours ago

                              They are jointed paper-cut figures (cut and then fastened with split pins and thread I think), laid out on multiple stacks of glass and ground-glass to simulate depth, and then back-illuminated (just as shadow puppets would be).

                              It's frame by frame stop-motion capture, for sure.

                          • tokai 2 hours ago

                            Looks like stop motion Scherenschnitte.

                        • klondike_klive 6 hours ago

                          Animators (and storyboarders, layout artists, illustrators etc) are still taught to prioritise the clarity and readability of the character's silhouette, although they're usually working with a three quarter view (between side profile and front-on) rather than a profile like the shadow puppets here. Still I can't help thinking this film would be a good object of study.

                          Some of the forest scenes remind me of the original King Kong in their use of dark foreground shapes and framing devices to give an impression of scale.

                          https://youtu.be/j6DaB0Is4jM?t=1720

                          https://youtu.be/1vNv-pE8I_c?t=72

                          • gwbas1c 2 hours ago

                            Looking at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_8aFQUfBw, the film is impressive and has merit.

                            Should we say that it's "animated?" I know it's an argument of semantics; yet it's nothing like the hand-drawn animation of early Disney movies.

                            • rob74 1 hour ago

                              Animation isn't just hand-drawn animation, it's any kind of movie composed from individual still images. And stop-motion animation is a subcategory of that, no matter if you use clay/putty (like in Wallace & Gromit), Lego figures or paper cutouts (like in this case or also on South Park).

                            • yiyus 8 hours ago

                              Starevich was doing stop motion animated films in 1912: "The Beautiful Leukanida" or "The Cameraman's Revenge".

                              • ginko 4 hours ago

                                The key part being "feature film". There's tons of animated short films from the 1910s.

                              • acoster 9 hours ago

                                IIRC, that's the movie they play on loop at the kids section of Landesmuseum in Zürich.

                                • bmacho 9 hours ago

                                  It's The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1926). IMDB page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015532/

                                  • FpUser 5 hours ago

                                    Never heard about it before and just watched it on youtube. I have found it absolutely beautiful.

                                    • bsder 9 hours ago

                                      I wonder if she knew of Henri Rivière and his "Ombres Chinoises."

                                      https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/henri-riviere-master-printm...

                                      The Shadow Theatre at "Le Chat Noir" was fairly famous, no?

                                      • ChrisMarshallNY 12 hours ago

                                        Amazing story!

                                        I was unaware of her.

                                        Thanks!