29 comments

  • Swizec 46 minutes ago

    Services in kind is a pretty common business practice. You see this a lot at the SMB level especially outside of the US.

    Small businesses are cash strapped. So you find someone who needs your services and you need their services. Instead of exchanging cash, you exchange invoices and do the work. You build them, say, a $5000 website, they perform, say, $5000 of landscaping.

    At big boy levels this is often structured as “strategic partnership”.

    The part that makes it not fraud is that both parties do actually do the work.

    • atomicnumber3 23 minutes ago

      This feels very adjacent to the story about the whole town in debt, and the rich guy leaves a $100 bill on the table, [and so on], in a way that I can't quite put my finger on.

      • skeeter2020 24 minutes ago

        the last thing you should do in this scenario is book that as revenue. Of course I would never do this, but you could keep it off the books.

      • titanomachy 32 minutes ago
        • fancyfredbot 13 minutes ago

          "This is a parody website. Any resemblance to real companies wash-trading their revenue is purely coincidental and also definitely happening."

        • jwr 1 hour ago

          I find this amusing: I'm from Poland, where after the VAT tax was introduced in the 1990s, there were famous "VAT carousel" crimes, with people ending up in prison. The basic idea was similar, except you also collected VAT refunds from the state.

          If you search for "vat carousel" today, it seems this is still a thing.

          • debarshri 1 hour ago

            VAT carousel is fraud. This is pre-legal.

            • gaiagraphia 31 minutes ago

              VAT is a joke of a tax. It's quite incredible why the government concerns itself with chasing people's accounts around. What a waste.

              If something can't be monitored with minimal effort, it only serves to enrich the legal/accountancy/hr/admin priest caste.

              The amount of labour wasted on moving numbers around numbers is staggering.

            • clearstack 45 minutes ago

              SEC calls this round-tripping. ASC 606 requires commercial substance — if both parties just book offsetting transactions, auditors flag the net cash flow as zero

              • RobotToaster 39 minutes ago

                What if they buy each other's NFTs instead?

                • whatever1 42 minutes ago

                  offsetting in what horizon? I give you 100 in q4 2026 you give me 100 in q1 2027

                  • skeeter2020 20 minutes ago

                    They're already ahead of you; you have to consistently book revenue (accrual or cash basis) which means they both go at the same time (which would offset) or that real money is being exchanged. You can't accrue the 100 you're (supposedly) giving me now and THEN accrue the 100 I'm giving you next year.

                • hliyan 1 hour ago

                  The best bit of tongue-in-cheek is in the FAQ:

                  > We take 2% of every swap. Then we swap our revenue with another platform.

                  • RobotToaster 45 minutes ago

                    Anyone else getting "SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP"

                    • Kim_Bruning 20 minutes ago

                      Confirmed. Firefox and Chrome.

                      • 0xffany 41 minutes ago

                        Visiting the website's url (revswap.ai without www) redirects me to revai.com which is for sale on godaddy... Fastest enshittification ever?

                        • 1attice 42 minutes ago

                          Yes. :/ GrapheneOS over here

                      • Frozen_Flame 1 hour ago

                        What if instead of trading dollars I want to promise to trade dollars in the future? My investors need to see me capturing the market. Might even create some panic for added fun.

                        • theartfuldodger 19 minutes ago

                          Never seen that particular SSL error before!

                          • Havoc 1 hour ago

                            The FAQ is amazing....pre-legal haha

                            This is why substance over form is a thing in revenue accounting. Unless you're an American AI company ofc.

                            • david927 39 minutes ago

                              I remember in the couple years before the dot com crash in 2000, there was a lot of satire being written which was being taken very seriously. You couldn't tell what was serious and what was humor because both were absurd.

                              • alansaber 51 minutes ago

                                Reinventing tax litigation from first principles

                                • zoba 34 minutes ago

                                  Reminds me a bit of the NFT parody site https://nfd.miami

                                  • stego-tech 57 minutes ago

                                    I don’t see anything topping the internet today better than this. Perfect, no notes.

                                    • luke5441 1 hour ago

                                      Let no one have the excuse of "this was so unexpected" once it burns down.

                                      • thelastgallon 1 hour ago

                                        I like this bit:

                                        Read the whitepaper*

                                        *there is no whitepaper

                                        • sscaryterry 46 minutes ago

                                          (Pending) Crime-as-a-Service

                                          • everfrustrated 58 minutes ago

                                            AKA YC companies buying from each other.

                                            • Lucasoato 1 hour ago

                                              Some of the text can't be read if opened in Firefox with dark mode as default. Kudos to you guys for making it anyway!

                                              • whatever1 49 minutes ago

                                                It’s down already. The fund exceeded its capacity.

                                                • debarshri 1 hour ago

                                                  What are the types of ARR the platform support?

                                                  Can it also generate SOC2 certifications in days?

                                                  • random3 1 hour ago

                                                    They gotta become a platform, so likely more will come

                                                    • janderson215 54 minutes ago

                                                      I heard they started a hardware unit operating in stealth, but the rumor is they’re working on a box.

                                                  • baggachipz 1 hour ago

                                                    Is there a way we can leverage the Gig Economy to book large gains?

                                                    • felipellrocha 44 minutes ago

                                                      This can’t be legal, can it?

                                                      • grey-area 1 hour ago

                                                        Activities like this are a good sign of a bubble close to bursting. The circular deals Nvidia and OpenAI have done are good examples of this.

                                                        https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2026-ai-circular-deals

                                                      • rizza 55 minutes ago

                                                        This took me far too long to figure out that it was parody. I'm sure some VC has at least thought of building a SEC Violations as a Service platform. This is truly the dumbest timeline.

                                                        • desireco42 36 minutes ago

                                                          Domain is down?

                                                          • testing22321 1 hour ago

                                                            I pay you a million dollars to eat dog shit. You pay me a million dollars to eat dog shit.

                                                            The result? The GDP goes up two million and we both have shit eating grins.

                                                            • randometc 1 hour ago

                                                              Obligatory Michael Lewis quote, from Boomerang (2011):

                                                              > Yet another hedge fund manager explained Icelandic banking to me this way: you have a dog, and I have a cat. We agree that each is worth a billion dollars. You sell me the dog for a billion, and I sell you the cat for a billion. Now we are no longer pet owners but Icelandic banks, with a billion dollars in new assets.

                                                              • That's just a variant of this old one:

                                                                Two economists are walking through a cow pasture.

                                                                The first economist says to the other “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The second economist takes the $100 and eats the pile of shit.

                                                                They continue walking until they come across a second pile of shit. The second economist turns to the first and says “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The first economist takes the $100 and eats a pile of shit.

                                                                Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you $100 to eat shit, then you gave me back the same $100 to eat shit. I can't help but feel like we both just ate shit for nothing."

                                                                "That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by $200!"

                                                                • lesuorac 34 minutes ago

                                                                  Well while the pile of shit makes it a joke, isn't there a real advantage here of legibility?

                                                                  Like you have a measure (GDP) and it can't accurate measure things unless a sale occurs. So even if the money is a wash there was an actual activity occurring in the economy and now it's recorded.

                                                                  • jerf 32 minutes ago

                                                                    Except the GP quote actually happens.

                                                                    For example, if you've ever wondered why useless art trades at such eye-watering valuations, the answer is that the high valuations are fictions that governments will accept for tax purposes, from which you can derive a variety of exciting tax consequences: https://naturalist.gallery/blogs/journal/understanding-the-f... more-or-less because they agree among themselves what the art is valuated at for their own benefit.

                                                                • spwa4 1 hour ago

                                                                  Isn't this highly illegal, and worst of all: this is cheating taxes ...

                                                                  Let's just say if you really want to commit crimes, don't start with challenging the IRS. Just don't. There's so many horror stories about that.

                                                                  • HumblyTossed 58 minutes ago

                                                                    As the FAQ suggests, it's "pre-legal".

                                                                    But it's all for mocking the current market... so.

                                                                  • mytailorisrich 2 hours ago

                                                                    "This is a parody website. Any resemblance to real companies wash-trading their revenue is purely coincidental and also definitely happening."