5 comments

  • kstrauser 4 hours ago

    The US previously spent about $5B a year for global HIV programs, or about $15 per resident. I’d mail them my $15 if they’d keep this going.

    And for the inevitable whining about the cost, let me toss some enlightened self interest your way. Know what else is expensive? Tuberculosis, which runs rampant through communities with high HIV rates. I’d double my donation to keep that at bay. I don’t want a tuberculosis epidemic here. I’d rather fight and win that battle elsewhere in the world.

    • stuaxo 4 hours ago

      Can the title be fixed ?

      AIDS is an acronym, and an aid is someone who helps.

      • pimlottc 1 hour ago

        An /aide/ is someone who helps by offering aid

        • rkomorn 1 hour ago

          Off topic but this was the entire joke behind a South Park episode.

        • khelavastr 3 hours ago

          Yeah, this title is counterfactual

        • arjie 2 hours ago

          The meta politics around all this is quite interesting. The principal objection today is in the means of departure rather than in the departure itself. But are there US programs that terminate slowly that weren’t originally designed to auto-terminate? Essentially, if you want a managed departure, you need to preprogram it in US politics because the mechanisms at play here are a lack of state power driven by a large number of action-blockers (probably better described by the Abundance people).

          Since we never programmed in a departure into USAID, it ended the same way that our Afghanistan adventure did: in a sudden scramble after a decision was made by a sufficiently powerful political force. In some sense, if you want to prioritize a managed exit you need to program it in and reduce blockers to it. This is not optimal for you if you want to prioritize duration-under-policy because the same mechanisms reduce that.

          It’s less that drastic change is because “someone got fed up with something” and more that we represent the outcome of power with non-linear policy because of enduring anti-action. So the suddenness is built-in because significantly altering things is impossible. You’d ideally want something like a near linear response curve with perhaps some amount of static friction so that changes occur in outcome with corresponding changes in political realities. I think we have something like what happens when you rub two sticky things together: stick-slip friction. They stick and increasing force doesn’t do anything until suddenly everything moves dramatically.

          Whether this is a natural constraint of the problems we face or an artificial constraint caused by our political shape is not clear to me. After all, many things are best done suddenly: you can’t slow-roll a Normandy. But I think many other things that occur like this are an artifact of how we’ve constructed things.

          If Medicare subsidies reduced over time or were more mobile between 0% and 100% of what they were would they have not gone to zero? If USAID could have gone down 33% and up 3x between administrations would that have led to net better results? It’s not clear. Sometimes the stability-for-a-while followed by sudden collapse is actually preferable.

          But I think overall, these outcomes are less characteristics of The One Bad Guy Who Ended It All and more characteristic of the underlying dynamic[0] of multi-participant democracy with powerful veto power. Whether veteran benefit fraud or Social Security or pensions will be next is one for us to think about but the more of a third rail something is, the more likelihood the change in it is catastrophic when it does indeed happen.

          0: in the same sense that search in an unsorted array is O(n) worst case. It’s not anyone’s fault. The universe has given us this interaction.

          • zulux 4 hours ago

            The US has to maintain this forever. Sorry. That's the rules.

            • onlypassingthru 2 hours ago

              Or, until the local health service is sufficient to manage the problem by itself. As you may recall, uncontrolled contagious diseases have a habit of escaping their local fish markets or virology labs.

              • spwa4 6 minutes ago

                USAIDS assistance for Zambia was 13 million USD, or about 0.12% of their government budget, or about 1.2% of their health budget. AIDS assistance comfortably fits in their government budget.

                Let's face it. Trump made them choose to give or deny AIDS treatment to the poor, at a minimal cost to them. There were no real budgetary consequences to the Zambian government to do it. Relatively speaking it costs Zambians more than it would cost the US, but it's still not much, not to them either.

              • janice1999 1 hour ago

                The US had to leave the medicine rot in warehouses. The AI chatbot said it was DEI.

                • 46493168 2 hours ago

                  False choice. The US can choose many paths besides “maintain forever” and “cut off entirely without warning.”

                  • mcphage 4 hours ago

                    If we don’t stop it there, it’ll spread faster here.

                    • diogenescynic 2 hours ago

                      Same argument they make why we have to keep giving Israel money to kill Palestinians...

                      • mcphage 1 hour ago

                        What the fuck are you even talking about?

                  • flatpepsi17 2 hours ago

                    Time for Zambia to grow up and take care of their citizens.

                    • oompydoompy74 1 hour ago

                      You do realize that diseases don’t care about borders at all?