Delphi is 31 years old – innovation timeline

(blogs.embarcadero.com)

57 points | by andsoitis 5 days ago

16 comments

  • zac23or 27 minutes ago

    I started using Delphi 3 and stopped at 7, migrating to web development (Rails, Django, etc.).

    Delphi was magical. Nothing compares to Delphi's productivity. Rails is good, but it doesn't even come close to Delphi's productivity. People love Go's speed. Go is glacially slow compared to Delphi. The WYSIWYG form editor is incredible. I can use Delphi 3 on a Windows machine with 16 MB of RAM.

    VCL is fantastic; the idea of components and memory management is incredible, simple, and it works.

    Delphi is my first language; I studied VCL code and I love the code, the style. They were practical: Instead of Hash, they used TStrings (a list of strings) and the visual components also used them, like in the items of a Listbox!

    Delphi could have been the platform for the web. Imagine a VCL for the web (VCLW), where you could change the target architecture or something like that and, presto, you'd have a web server running with VCL code!

    That never happened. What happened was a series of bad ideas for the web, bad in their essence.

    And Delphi invested in many projects doomed to failure, such as CORBA, three-tier architecture, MDA... Kylix!!!! Of course, Borland was very poorly managed. The CEOs were crazy. "Let's fight IBM." Delphi was abandoned. It's over.

    I tried a new version of Delphi a few years ago. Wow, it was full of bugs! It had basic problems like compilation not working, Random crashing several times, etc. For me the new versions are just a way to profit from projects stuck in Delphi.

    I tried Lazarus in the past, but it's extremely slow and I can't use my components in Lazarus without rewriting a lot of things.

    To me, Delphi is languishing in an induced coma, breathing the air of the past, which is becoming increasingly rare. It's a shame.

    • Aloha 21 minutes ago

      This so much.

      We just got code complete on porting a 30 year old Delphi app to C#, because of all of this.

      Even now, our pure Delphi components are performant and wonderful, but hiring people who want to learn or know Delphi is hard, so off to C# we trundle forward.

      • storus 4 minutes ago

        Didn't the same people who wrote Delphi write also C# and .NET? When I first saw .NET it felt very much like VCL/CLX. And then came TypeScript from the same guy.

    • sllabres 1 hour ago

      Sometimes I miss the times where you had a compact development environment, wit one installer. Your source produced a mostly self contained binary in a reasonable size, you had nice debugging support and quick turnaround times for a compiled language even on a small development machines. And all that for attractive price for a perpetual license (Borland times).

      Today it seems I have to give the producer my email address for the 'free' "Delphi History PDF". Well, times have changed. :)

      • themafia 1 hour ago

        npm i nostalgia

        • avrionov 32 minutes ago

          For me Go and Rust match this to a point. Especially Go once installed it generates executable extremely fast.

      • OldSchool 33 minutes ago

        The way I saw it in 1995 was that Delphi was the fastest way to create a full windows desktop app and do it as single compiled-to-native-code executable at that critical time it was released. The slightly-later 32-bit version was powerful and gave your app some staying power; a Delphi-generated executable file would likely still run today.

        • smackeyacky 30 minutes ago

          Sadly they still do, although finding somebody to work on them is hard and while the executables work, the dev environment does not. Delphi was a pretty nasty dead end

        • kogus 1 hour ago

          I have very fond memories of working with Delphi 5 and 2005 in the early 2000s. Both the language and IDE were a real pleasure to work with, and they were head and shoulders better than anything from Microsoft at that time. The community was small but enthusiastic and supportive as well.

          It would be hard to justify Delphi in a new project today - not because of the tooling or language, but because of the prohibitive license costs.

          • zerr 58 minutes ago

            Same here, but with C++Builder.

          • nullable_bool 1 hour ago

            When I was a kid, my older brother worked for Borland. He got me 2 packs of stickers that said "Delphi developers do it better!!!" in red font and a yellow background.

            • rawgabbit 1 hour ago

              I remember taking an onsite class to learn Delphi. The class was taught in St Petersburg Florida. Nice place. At the time, I was admiring the tool that Borland created and thought to myself this is a very nice IDE. Too bad my company was switching to all things .Net. The difference between Visual Studio and the Delphi IDE was gut wrenching.

              • Nexxxeh 1 hour ago

                When I was starting out as a kid learning to make applications, moving from VB6 to Delphi was such a huge improvement.

                Tempted to use a client's plotter and roll of paper to print this off.

                • t1234s 1 hour ago

                  The original borland delphi had very creative installer graphics:

                  https://www.gladir.com/SOFTWARE/DELPHI1/delphi1-install5.png

                • boznz 51 minutes ago

                  Happy birthday Delphi, you made me a lot of money :-)

                  I am guessing most Delphi developers like me, have either retired or have moved to Linux. I have done both recently and I unfortunately do not see a new generation following in behind me. I hope it survives as it was and still is a nice IDE and language to work in, though I'm guessing newer Pascal developers will opt for Lazarus

                  • chrisatthestudy 10 minutes ago

                    I'm now retired, but I spent much (most?) of my career developing with Delphi. When I began, it was the new hotness. When I finished, I was supporting legacy applications that were decades old. Good to see it's still around, though.

                    • piskov 27 minutes ago

                      Is it still alive? Last time I used it was around 2005.

                      One nice thing though as I remember was that ruins of Russian Borland branch gave us Jetbrains.

                      • oblio 1 hour ago

                        Weird but FreePascal is fairly solid for its niche.

                        • bogota69 49 minutes ago

                          Straight up, nobody uses it anymore.

                          • oytis 1 hour ago

                            What is dead may never die

                            • davtyan1202 56 minutes ago

                              The hardest part of maintaining a long-term project is resisting the urge to over-engineer early on. Striking a balance between a lean core and future extensibility is an art form that often gets ignored in favor of shipping fast.

                              • carlos256 1 hour ago

                                31 years old and it can't run on GNU/Linux. What a waste. The future of Delphi is darker than ever.