2 comments

  • netsharc 10 hours ago

    https://archive.is/haWGQ

    One paragraph there says the banks need to sell them so they can invest in other things... Do I smell the banks realizing "oh shit, we're holding a bomb, we need to convince some other fool to take it before it blows up...".

    • seanhunter 6 hours ago

      If a loan is supported by a known lease it is more attractive to investors than a regular loan, so I somewhat doubt they are thinking about it like this.

      The real reason they will be doing this is this is what they do in general. They don’t hold on to huge amounts of risk with predictable returns (because it consumes their operating and regulatory risk capital inefficiently) they will instead find buyers for that risk, which frees up capital they can then use on their next thing. That basically gives up some of the long term, low return, low volatility risk for shorter term, higher return, higher volatility risk.

      • skybrian 8 hours ago

        Banks commonly originate loans and then sell them. That's pretty normal nowadays.

      • zerosizedweasle 10 hours ago

        If the loans are such a good value, then why do the banks want to get rid of them so badly? Dumb investors...

        • seanhunter 6 hours ago

          That’s exactly the same as going into a furniture shop and going “if this furniture was so good, then why would they want to sell it so badly”. They’re a furniture shop - they make and sell furniture. There’s only so much furniture you need for yourself after all no matter how good it is.

          Investment banks make investment products for investors. They do keep risk for themselves so you will find when they sell these loans they will often keep a slice, but they only need so much Oracle datacenter loan risk - they want to have free capital to find other opportunities to fund.

          • marcyb5st 20 minutes ago

            It is not the same and your metaphor is bad. Furniture generates revenue when sold, loans generate revenue just by holding them as there is an interest that needs to be repaid.

            Hence the shop sells the inventory as fast as they can, while banks hold safe loans as long as they can unless they believe that aren't safe anymore or that they can make more money with something else.